1001 Problemen voor Phoenix F1

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Practical problems for Phoenix Finance
FORGETTING the legal and political issues involved in the takeover of Prost Grand Prix assets, the Phoenix Finance Ltd. F1 team is going to have a series of virtually insurmountable problems in the weeks ahead if it is to stay alive.

Getting the equipment together is also going to be interesting as well. For a start the Arrows Engine company ceased trading on May 5, 2000 and around $4.8m was written off. The company then said it was negotiating to sell its assets to clear outstanding liabilities. It is therefore not clear who is now the owner of the engines or whether they will now be purchased by Phoenix. Sticking these old V10s into the old Prost chassis in the course of a few weeks will not be easy but that is nothing compared to the problem of designing and building a gearbox and rear suspension in the time available. The new team cannot use Arrows parts unless the other teams all agree and the Prost gearbox was designed for the Ferrari V10 engine and so would have to be botched to mate with the Arrows V10.

There is also a question of tires.

"We have programmed our production for the year and we have no capacity to add an extra team at this late stage," said Michelin's Andy Pope.

"We do not have the engineers or the production facilities to support another team," said Bridgestone's Taka Horio.

Thus in order to run the new team will have to find a new tire supplier.

Phoenix must appear in Malaysia because otherwise it will miss two consecutive races and the entry will be null and void.

It is not yet clear who will be the lucky man to have unscramble all these problems but it is perhaps significant that veteran TWR team manager Andy Morrison, should unexpectedly turn up in Melbourne.

bron: inside-f1

Geen banden, dure motoren, Prost gemaakt voor Ferrari motoren, slechte coureurs, weinig sponsors...

Maak daar maar eens een team van...

[airco]

khad da gisteren al voorspelt in een aantal threads he. Hetgeen TWR nu probeert is gedoemd om te mislukken.

airco

[Mark]

hm, deze gasten gaan zeer veel winst maken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ze kopen de rechten van Prost voor 2.5 miljoen euro, ze kopen dus ook de rechten van de Concord Agreement. M.a.w ook de opbrengst van de tv-rechten en de reisgelden.

Waarde van beide ongeveer totaal 12 miljoen dollar, ik hoef de rekensom verder niet af te maken denk ik zo.................

[airco]

mja winst maken is idd verkeerd uitgedrukt.

alhoewel. Ze zullen in Maleisië wel MOETEN meerijden anders hebben ze 2 achtereenvolgende GP's waar ze niet aan meegedaan hebben en wordt hun deelname aan dit seizoen ongeldig. Geen TV-kosten, geen reisvergoedingen, niks. Alles gaat naar hetvolgende team in de rangischikking dan ==> Minardi


airco

[Mark]

lees dit eens

Skoda to join grid
Harold Miltner
Sunday March 3, 2002
The Observer

Volkswagen are set to spring the biggest surprise of this still young Formula One season by announcing their appearance on the grid. The German car giants are believed to be behind the controversial purchase of the remnants of the bankrupt Prost team, with backing from Arrows boss Tom Walkinshaw and even F1 controller Bernie Ecclestone himself, and VW, under the guise of their racing arm Skoda, could be racing as early as the Malaysian Grand Prix in a fortnight.
The sale of Prost's assets for a knockdown £1.5 million to British businessman Charles Nickelson caused anger among the other F1 teams, especially Minardi chief Paul Stoddart, who had to pay £21.4m for his outfit. Confirmation that VW are the power behind Nickelson's consortium would cause further outrage as it would deliver the German company their long-cherished ambition to join F1, at a bargain-basement price, and also give the new team a whole season of on-the-job testing for a concerted championship effort in 2003.

Ecclestone, a close personal friend of Volkswagen's future motor sport head, Bernd Pischetsrieder, is believed to have acted as the go-between in the deal. He has long been under pressure from the big car companies, who wanted to start their own championship, and VW's arrival in F1 would unite them under his reign.

Reports in Germany ahead of this morning's season-opening Australian Grand Prix said VW planned to put Walkinshaw's old Arrows engines into the 2001 Prost chassis in order to race in Malaysia, or possibly the Brazilian GP on 31 March. Although this bolt-together concern, which will be near Walkinshaw's Arrows base in Leafield, Oxfordshire, would have little chance, the new owner would avoid the £100,000 fine for not taking part in a race despite having a licence, and allow Volkswagen to test in an actual race. They would therefore steal a march on, for example, the new Toyota team, who have ploughed millions into developing their own new chassis and engine.

The new team's drivers are set to be Czech Thomas Enge, who raced for Prost in 2001, and Argentine Gaston Mazzacane, the former Minardi driver.

Pischetsrieder, who was a key figure in BMW's return to F1 before having to quit the Bavarian company over its disastrous purchase of Rover, has always sought a return to top-grade motor sport.

'Everybody knows that I have always been an F1 fan and I would love to own a team there one day,' he said. Pointedly, Volkswagen have also refused to discount the report of their purchase of Prost after denials of their imminent F1 entry in the past.

The prospect of a Skoda-branded car lining up on the F1 grid may raise some eyebrows , but since VW bought the Skoda Automotive Works in the Czech Republic in 1995, it has turned the company, founded in 1905, into a cash cow and a successful motorsport outfit.

The plant has been upgraded with new equipment and financial and organisational discipline have been instilled, and Skoda boast arguably the world's most modern car assembly plant with a staff of 900 engineers. Skoda have already produced rally-winning cars.

Pischetsrieder said recently: 'Even if we decided to do it today, we would lack a team.' For this reason, VW's initial idea was to supply a team with engines first, following the lines of their German rivals Mercedes and BMW, but the purchase of Prost will lead them straight to the grid in their own right.

http://www.observer.co.uk/sport/stor...661186,00.html

[airco]

Tja, was al te verwachten dat er zoiets achterzat. Dat die Charles Nickerson een tussenpersoon was had iedereen wel door. Dat het de VW-groep zou zijn had ik zo nog niet bekeken. Achteraf vrij logisch gezien de baas van VW een enorme F1-fan is. Als ze heel het verhaal als een test-sessie zien dit seizoen, tja dan zal het wel lukken. Er is echter nog a far way to go zene.

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[Bart.Vandecavey]

VW stond al aan de poort van de F1 te drummen en als ze nu zo'n goedkoop plaatsje konden kopen waarom niet hé...

Het schijnt dat ze al een F1 motor hebben die draait, zelfde weg als BMW misschien...

[Mark]

het is wel de observer....................

Mocht het waar zijn, dan is Toyota natuurlijk pissed off. Maar ja, het schijnt toch te kloppen dat ze dus de rechten hebben verworven van de tv-opbrengst.

Makkelijk geld verdienen..................

[Mario]

Want daar staat aangekondigd dat Skoda wel eens al dit jaar zou kunnen meerijden.

Volkswagen zit naar verluidt achter die Prost-saga en onder de naam Skoda gaan meedoen.

Bovendien heeft MS gezegd dat McLaren en Williams het Ferrari in de toekomst moeilijk gaan maken. Ik weet niet wat er van aan is, maar persoonlijk vind ik het enthousiasme van oa airco over de nieuwe Ferrari toch ietwat voorbarig en het feit dat MS ook al toegeeft dat ze nog moeilijke tijden tegemoet kunnen gaan, bevestigt dit misschien.

[Mario]

Nu ja, ben ook even verder gaan kijken dan m'n neus lang is. Sluit deze maar (of toch het Skoda-gedeelte wordt al elders besproken).

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euhm, ja, ik heb ff uwen thread gemengd met die van '1001 Problemen voor Phoenix F1' maar den titel is nu 'Leest er hier dan niemand De Morgen of BBC on line ?'

Foutje

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[airco]

oeie, ze verprutsen het were, dus here's the "tech dude". ff geduld, zou zo opgelost moeten zijn.

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[airco]

fixed.

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Jamaja, wie volgt er hier informatica op KdG ? Ik nie zunne, ik zou zo'n richting nooit doen ik

[airco]

back on topic:

The Observer was blijkbaar niet echt zo betrouwbaar, want vandaag komt de VW-groep bij monde van woorvoerder Kurt Rippholz met de volgende formele verklaring

“We have already said it, but let us repeat it: Volkswagen does not intend to enter into Formula One.”

vrij duidelijk me denkt. Ome Tom Walkinshaw zal wel goe aant speculeren zijn, en hopen dat er binnen afzienbare tijd een autoconstructeur bijt op de 12e en laatste plaats in de F1. Zonder grote groep is Phoenix F1 gedoemd om te mislukken..

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